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BMW 5 Series NOx Issues: Check Engine & Failed Emissions
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patricia_ghost1 (Author)
Thanks for the detailed response! My current mileage is 148281 KM and I just had the regular service done last month. The fuel consumption seems about the same, but I am getting a weird sulfur-like smell from the exhaust. Haven't pulled the error codes yet, planning to do that tomorrow with my OBD scanner. The corrosion issue you mentioned makes sense since the car's been through quite a few winters. Your experience gives me hope it might be something relatively simple and not too expensive to fix. I'll check those connections you mentioned before heading to the shop.
norbertloewe1
Hey again! Thanks for those details, that sulfur smell you mentioned immediately rings a bell! When I had my 3 series, that same smell showed up right before I discovered the wiring issue. Given your mileage and the winter exposure, I'm even more convinced it could be similar to what I dealt with. Quick tip from my experience, when you're checking those connections tomorrow with your OBD scanner, take a really close look at the wiring harness near the NOx sensor. In my case, the corrosion wasn't super obvious at first glance. I actually had to wiggle the connections a bit to notice the issue. The sulfur smell in my case cleared up completely after fixing the wiring. One thing I learned the hard way, if you do spot corroded wires, don't just clean them and hope for the best. I tried that first and ended up having to replace them anyway two weeks later. Complete replacement is the way to go. Let me know what codes you pull tomorrow. If they're anything like what I got (I think mine was P0420, but it's been a while), I might be able to give you more specific pointers from what I learned dealing with my car. Just be careful with those winter-worn connections, they can be pretty fragile when you're checking them!
patricia_ghost1 (Author)
Thanks so much for all these valuable insights! This information about checking the wiring harness and the specific tip about not just cleaning corroded wires is super helpful. I really appreciate you sharing your experience in such detail. The fact that you also had that sulfur smell makes me feel more confident about what I might be dealing with. I'll definitely take your advice and be extra careful when checking those connections tomorrow. Will make sure to do a thorough inspection of the wiring harness like you suggested, rather than just pulling the codes. And good call on the complete replacement, you probably saved me from making the same mistake with just cleaning the wires! I'll let you know what I find out with the OBD scan. Even if it turns out to be something different, you've given me a solid starting point. Really helpful to have someone who's been through something similar share their experience. Thanks again for taking the time to help out!
AndyL
Good day. 25C300 was displayed at 205,000 km. Now I'm at 208,000 km and it's referring to the error at the old mileage. Does this mean the error has resolved itself? There is no increased fuel consumption, no smoke, etc. It's the sensor after the catalytic converter. I refilled AdBlue about 3000 km ago and probably spilled some then. Does the NOx sensor need to be replaced now or can it remain? I look forward to feedback. Thank you very much.
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Good day. 25C300 was displayed at 205,000 km. Now I'm at 208,000 km and it's referring to the error at the old mileage. Does this mean the error has resolved itself? There is no increased fuel consumption, no smoke, etc. It's the sensor after the catalytic converter. I refilled AdBlue about 3000 km ago and probably spilled some then. Does the NOx sensor need to be replaced now or can it remain? I look forward to feedback. Thank you very much.
It's possible that the error code was triggered by the AdBlue spill, which might have temporarily affected the sensor's readings. If the check engine light is off and you're not experiencing any performance issues, the problem might have resolved itself. However, to be sure, inspect the NOx sensor and its connections for any signs of damage or residue from the spill. If everything looks fine and the error doesn't reappear, you might not need to replace the sensor immediately. Keep an eye on it and check for any recurring codes. If you have further questions or notice any changes, feel free to ask!
AndyL
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It's possible that the error code was triggered by the AdBlue spill, which might have temporarily affected the sensor's readings. If the check engine light is off and you're not experiencing any performance issues, the problem might have resolved itself. However, to be sure, inspect the NOx sensor and its connections for any signs of damage or residue from the spill. If everything looks fine and the error doesn't reappear, you might not need to replace the sensor immediately. Keep an eye on it and check for any recurring codes. If you have further questions or notice any changes, feel free to ask!
Yes, the engine light is off. It's about an X5, model year 2017. The specific error is NOX sensor after the SCR catalyst. Short circuit to ground or positive. Before the catalyst, there is an observable error message 280D00 = signal invalid for too long or 2B6200 = implausible signal, sensitivity. I can't see the sensor or the contacts because it's somehow under the trim. Should I open it or just continue to observe? Thank you for your feedback
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Yes, the engine light is off. It's about an X5, model year 2017. The specific error is NOX sensor after the SCR catalyst. Short circuit to ground or positive. Before the catalyst, there is an observable error message 280D00 = signal invalid for too long or 2B6200 = implausible signal, sensitivity. I can't see the sensor or the contacts because it's somehow under the trim. Should I open it or just continue to observe? Thank you for your feedback
Since the check engine light is off and you're not experiencing any performance issues, it might be best to continue observing for now. However, given the specific error messages related to the NOx sensor, it's important to ensure there's no underlying issue that could affect your vehicle's performance or emissions. If you're comfortable doing so, you could carefully inspect the area for any visible signs of damage or residue from the AdBlue spill. If you're unsure or if the error reappears, it would be wise to have a professional mechanic take a closer look to ensure everything is functioning correctly. Let me know if you have any further questions!
AndyL
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Since the check engine light is off and you're not experiencing any performance issues, it might be best to continue observing for now. However, given the specific error messages related to the NOx sensor, it's important to ensure there's no underlying issue that could affect your vehicle's performance or emissions. If you're comfortable doing so, you could carefully inspect the area for any visible signs of damage or residue from the AdBlue spill. If you're unsure or if the error reappears, it would be wise to have a professional mechanic take a closer look to ensure everything is functioning correctly. Let me know if you have any further questions!
In this context, I have looked at the remaining 43 other (all uncritical!) error messages. All occurred immediately (approx. 300km range) after the AdBlue spill. Since AdBlue, to my knowledge, crystallizes when it dries, and I cannot see the contacts without removing the floor pan/trim, the question is whether an intensive engine wash would not be the best way to remove it all, or whether this might cause damage because the presumably crystallized AdBlue will be liquefied again? Or is it better to leave it as it is? Many thanks in advance
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In this context, I have looked at the remaining 43 other (all uncritical!) error messages. All occurred immediately (approx. 300km range) after the AdBlue spill. Since AdBlue, to my knowledge, crystallizes when it dries, and I cannot see the contacts without removing the floor pan/trim, the question is whether an intensive engine wash would not be the best way to remove it all, or whether this might cause damage because the presumably crystallized AdBlue will be liquefied again? Or is it better to leave it as it is? Many thanks in advance
It's true that AdBlue can crystallize and potentially cause issues if it affects electrical connections. However, washing the engine bay can sometimes lead to water ingress in sensitive areas, which might cause further issues. If you decide to clean it, it's crucial to do so carefully. Consider using a gentle approach, like a damp cloth, to clean visible areas without soaking the components. If you're not comfortable doing this yourself, it might be best to have a professional handle it to avoid any accidental damage. Keep monitoring for any recurring issues, and feel free to ask if you have more questions!
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norbertloewe1
Hey there! I'm a hobby mechanic with some experience, and I actually faced a similar issue with my 2004 BMW 3 series (also had the 7 series at the time). The symptoms you're describing sound really familiar. Mine turned out to be a faulty cable connection to the NOx sensor. Had it checked at my regular workshop, and they found the wiring was corroded, causing false readings. The fix was pretty straightforward, they replaced the wiring and connections, cost me around 95 Euro. But I can't say for sure if your issue is identical without more info. Could you share: Current mileage? Any specific error codes? Notice any changes in fuel consumption? Any unusual exhaust smell? This would help determine if you're dealing with the same problem I had or something else.